Yes, Moderate, and in the 1950's a lot of Americans were saying the same thing about black Americans and in the 1970's about women.

I have a gay grandson, and I want him to have the same rights as the rest of us and that includes the right of marriage. I'm proud that he is standing up for his own rights too.  ALL Americans - and I do mean ALL - should be given the same tax and other benefits bestowed on straight married couples.

If Bush and Cheney really cared about America, they wouldn't be dividing it to win elections.  First, the Muslims, then the gays, and now the immigrants.  Keep pounding away on all of them; that'll make the so-called Christian conservtives happy.  If they were truly Christian, they'd be "loving thy neighbor."

As Pink sings, I wonder what Laura thinks about all this.  I hope she kicks him out of bed Monday night!

Seriously - think how cool it would be if we could do three things -

1. instant runoff voting

2. popular referendum -
   
3. The big one: no anonymous riders.

if that happened - america would be a stronger country. who weakens our country?

1. guys like lieberman who are backed by the hrc

2. guys like tom delay who are backed by abramoff
   
3. guys like karl rove and bush who get away with it

why have democracy if you can't vote?

see thats the thing I don't get, jlove. the left behind crowd includes myself.

who is it that gets really motivated to get up and get excited about this amendment? I have only one answer for you: the episcopal church.

The episcopal church is founded on the principle that politics and religion mix. The church of england (anglican church) was built because the wife of king henry felt the king of england needed to be the head of the church.

if anyone really wants to pursue this issue, why not pursue it in church. my guess about this is, that bush is not doing anything with his administration but instead reporting to the "anglican" read: episcopal fat cats behind the whole ralph reed for lieutenant governor campaign that its time to connect karl rove back into their message machine.

I will go one further: this announcement was in fact a secret code not to the "left behind" crowd as you so disingenuously put it: we could care less, its a settled issue.

No.

This is a clear signal to everyone on the take from the bush company -and there are MANY - given that this evangelical liberal spends like a drunken sailor ( read: 1.5 billion in the past 6 years, campaigning and marketing his message - where does it really go?)

This is a signal to all those blogs and talk radio hosts and people who are writing those catholic and anglican and "the world" magazines to reconnect back to Karl Rove so he can dictate to them the message of the day...

This is, in fact, no different than an osama bin laden tape in my mind.

If this thing was a big deal to you, then you're on the side of the GOP that has filtered into the Democratic party to respond to it.

I think they did a dry run last week with the whole thing about trying to paint Kerry as if he's still trying to live down the scum boaters.

that didn't work.

So now Karl Rove is going back to his texas - flyer the parking lots of churches roots.

This is classic. The greatest traitor in our country is now out to destroy the work of our founding fathers separating church and state.

And anyone who stands up either for or against him, are working for him. Tell me that Karl Rove isn't a modern day josef goebbels..