Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31%

by lizardbox, Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:50:17 PM EST

A poll of 500 democratic voters conducted by WBKO/Herald-Leader found 58% of all respondents supporting Clinton while 31% support Obama and 5% undecided.

The results:


All Men Women White Black Other

Hillary Clinton 58% 56% 60% 62% 16% 69%

Barack Obama 31% 32% 30% 27% 78% 14%

Other 6% 9% 3% 7% -- --

Undecided 5% 3% 7% 4% 6% 17%

The poll also found McCain beating Clinton 53% to 41% and Obama 58% to 33%




Tags: Obama, Clinton, Poll, Kentucky, Primary, 2008 (all tags)

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It's unfortunate that (2.00 / 1)

West Virginia has trended that Republican as of late.

They have one of the worst economies in the country and it hasn't been helped one iota by the Republicans.

They just continue to vote for the wrong medicine. Hopefully, we'll begin seeding the state with our literature and media over the years and we'll get it back in our column down the road.


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by Lord Hadrian on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:52:26 PM EST

Excuse me. Kentucky. (2.00 / 1)

But both are in the same boat.


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by Lord Hadrian on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:54:38 PM EST
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Re: Excuse me. Kentucky. (2.00 / 1)

I'm from Virginia, and we take an especially dim view of West Virginians, without any respect to political affiliation.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:01:09 AM EST
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Ah, still angry (2.00 / 1)

Over that Civil War split, are we? :P

No. I do agree - West Virginia is a place where low-information voting tends to take place. It's very poor but let's not be mean.

West Virginia used to be Democratic; but now they've consistently voted against their economic interests two elections, potentially three.

Hopefully we can flood the area with knowledge that they're getting played when it comes to "elitism". Everyone who runs for President tends to be elite; I think some people are still wondering how the fuck George W. Bush ran as an outsider.

-.-.

It's very hard to forgive the people of this nation for making such a shitty decision to elect him not once, but twice.

But maybe they hard economic times will make them understand it.

I can't have any pity for them being unable to go deeper into debt when they won't even acknowledge the atrocities being committed overseas.

Sigh.

Catch-22.

And I'm getting very emo about it :P.


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by Lord Hadrian on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:08:49 AM EST
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Re: Ah, still angry (2.00 / 1)

Heh. I think that's the core undercurrent of the division- the split in the civil war- but nobody thinks about it consciously anymore. Truly, though, West Virginia and Appalachia remind me of East Germany- the infrastructure sucks, the people are backwards, and unfortunately, the jokes about having a family tree with no branches or marrying and not having your last name change are very true in the boonies.

Now, that's changing, and I think we should recognize that. The northeastern peninsula of WV has become a suburb of DC- but it's not enough. Nobody's been able to help these people in the last hundred years or so. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll change anytime soon.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:14:39 AM EST
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The 'low information' (2.00 / 1)

voter thing is really tired and ridiculously classist.
by linc on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:20:04 AM EST
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Re: The 'low information' (none / 0)

I thought we were just being "bluntly accurate"- just like Senator Clinton recently. Right? ;)


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:23:24 AM EST
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Nice to win Kentucky, too (none / 0)

But West Virginia has been a solid Democratic state up until the 2000 election. They were one of the few states that Jimmy Carter carried in 1980 and Michael Dukakis in 1988. Kentucky has been more of a swing state, and usually votes for the winner.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:16:46 PM EST
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Re: It's unfortunate that (2.00 / 1)

West Virginia is exactly where money would be going if "trickle down" economics actually worked.

But that trickling sound they hear is actually the sound of the Republicans pissing all over their needs.

Politics too often is about helping those who've helped you (by voting for you).  Democrats need to help these places, because it's the right thing to do, and we'll win them back when we do.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:26:33 AM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

As everyone knows, Kentucky is the most important state ever. This bodes poorly for Obama.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:52:31 PM EST

McCain beats Clinton IN KY ????? (none / 0)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:54:15 PM EST

Hey he is beating 30 here (2.00 / 1)

which is better than West Virginia, however there is Lexington and Lousiville in KY while WV is all Appalachia except for the Eastern Panhandle.


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by Student Guy on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:10:18 AM EST

Interesting head to head matchups (2.00 / 1)

I guess the selection of a vp for obama must be pretty strategic given KY, WV, and some of the other states he lost.  What else would narrow the gap between McCain-Obama?  

Anyway you cut it, many of these remaining states have been ravaged by the bush** administration.


by 4justice on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:14:51 AM EST

Re: Interesting head to head matchups (2.00 / 1)

I think that Strickland, Rendell, Kaine, etc, would all be good choices in this regard.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:17:06 AM EST
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Re: Interesting head to head matchups (none / 0)

Rendell is a tough call.

Pennsylvania had the longest primary season and he's been inextricably linked to Hillary Clinton.  A sudden tie in with Obama would look strange to the state's residents.  


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:20:54 AM EST
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Interesting thought exercise (2.00 / 1)

WV definately has same with KY.  SD is a split (agriculture has gone gangbusters the past 3 years but prior to that SD was trashed), Montana is getting the crap kicked out of it. Oregon is getting  pillaged.

4.5 out of 5...


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by Student Guy on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:19:41 AM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

I'm voting for McCain... Hillary 2012!  I can live with 4 years of McCain to spite Obama.

i hope this is not what many clinton supporters, if so deal with the consequences i know ill be voting for the democrat


by nj49ers83 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:01:18 AM EST

You're not fooling anybody here. (2.00 / 1)

You'd vote for McCain regardless.


Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129
by Kobi on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:35:47 AM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

I still think Obama will get 35%, it would be great if he got 40.


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:03:04 AM EST

This is going to be a looooooong (2.00 / 1)

week for the Clintons.

Mark my words.


No way. No how. No McCain!
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:13:01 AM EST

Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

I wonder how many will turn out for Hillary now that her campaign is a ghost ship.


Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129
by Kobi on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:34:32 AM EST

Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

With all due respect. KY is not needed for a Obama victory.

Look at Poblano's startling analysis of what Obama can achieve if new voter registrations of AA's increased by 40%.

He would win a baseline EV of 322 and his increase his popular vote margin by 3.4%.

Increase that level to the youth and latino vote and he will win a extra 40EVs.

Astounding.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/b lack-youth-and-latino-turnout-and.html


Obama/Warner 2008
by MissVA on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:13:19 AM EST

Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

means if poll is correct, when undecided and others will actually vote, it will be 65-34


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:12:47 AM EST

Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

Which would net Hillary ~15 whole delegates.  That doesn't make much of a dent. And even if she wins VW by 80 - 20, she'll only get 16 more.  Not sure what all the fuss is about.


by Gene In PA on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:24:16 AM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (none / 0)

means he cannot win in GE: he has no support of democratic base, except blacks, dkos-like kids and some pseudo-liberals. No working class, no women, no seniors, no latinos, no rurals, no farmers.


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Mon May 12, 2008 at 09:47:03 AM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

But he still wills the nomination.
by Gene In PA on Mon May 12, 2008 at 09:50:03 AM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (none / 0)

Um, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you haven't been paying attention.  Or assume you're one of those people who still hasn't learned the meaning of the word no.  When you say no something, it means the complete lack of, not a minority of.  Besides having plenty of support from working class, seniors, latinos, and rurals, albeit maybe not a majority, Obama has consistently WON the woman vote in the states that he has won, i.e. the majority of the states in the union.  And as for farmers, um I'm pretty sure Iowa has some farmers.  Just as I'm pretty sure, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Illinois have some farmers, as well.

It's so annoying when reality doesn't act how you want it to, isn't it?


by The Distillery on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:02:06 PM EST
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Re: Kentucky Poll: Clinton 58% - Obama 31% (2.00 / 1)

Except the black vote is only 78-16. It'll be 93-7. That brings the margin down a bit. And don't expect all white voters to flock to Clinton this time. Most will probably stay home since the race is basically over.


by elrod on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:31:05 AM EST
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My guess is that you (none / 0)

will be proven exactly wrong about the turnout in both KY and WV. My expectation is that they will turn out in pretty massive numbers, precisely because they want to register their very strong disapproval of Obama as potential nominee.

In fact, if these voters come out in record numbers, it's going to be very, very difficult for the Obama campaign to spin the result as inconsequential. If Obama were even acceptable to this bloc of voters, why would they go out of their way under these circumstances to vote him down?


by frankly0 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 11:17:09 AM EST

Why Clinton Must Stay in the Race (none / 0)

If Clinton would to drop out of the race today, she would still win West Virginia and Kentucky. Puerto Rico would probably become a toss up. It would be embarrassing for Barack Obama to lose to a candidate that has dropped out of the race. From Obama's perspective, it's best for Clinton to remain in the race through the Puerto Rico primary.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:13:27 PM EST


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